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Nathaniel's avatar

I did not see that ending coming. Heaton, now I really want a full episode where Sandefur walks through the history, successes, and philosophy of foreign interventionism. I'm very much in the non-interventionist, unforeseen consequences, TNG camp, however your previous interview with Bill Crystal has stuck with me as a challenge to my priors. It would be fascinating to hear someone with Sandefur's intellectual might, but without the baggage and bloodied hands of a (cataclysmic) foreign intervention failure.

The Unappreciated Engineer's avatar

So 6,000+ years of well documented human history, including modern day examples (Ukraine has entered the chat), of might makes right, contrasted with 250-ish non-uninterrupted years of democracy, and you think when a global catastrophe happens we'll all turn into the Denver tribe from Stephen King's The Stand without the Las Vegas group emerging? Um, I think I'm taking the under on that bet.