Why has trust in the news collapsed—and is it really all the media's fault? Tangle founder Isaac Saul joins for a candid conversation about the incentives driving modern journalism, from clickbait and audience capture to ideological groupthink and the collapse of local news. We explore whether readers are rewarding the very coverage they claim to hate, why viewpoint diversity matters inside newsrooms, whether AI poses a real threat to journalism, and what it would actually take to rebuild public trust. It's a nuanced discussion about media, incentives, and why fixing the news may require fixing ourselves first.
The Political Orphanage
Politics minus bile plus jokes. Avowed independent and comedian Andrew Heaton interviews authors and thought leaders about policy and big thinky stuff. A refuge from Red Team vs. Blue Team slapfights.
Politics minus bile plus jokes. Avowed independent and comedian Andrew Heaton interviews authors and thought leaders about policy and big thinky stuff. A refuge from Red Team vs. Blue Team slapfights. Listen on
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